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Re: The Rugby's Pubsing « Reply #1 on Oct 20, 2008, 11:39am »
Lupa and I did not get to see Saturday's, but I thought Sunday was well done and had the correct song choices and overall feel befitting a final day pub sing.
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Re: The Rugby's Pubsing « Reply #2 on Oct 22, 2008, 12:10pm »
I wasn't able to attend either Pub Sing (I had to work), but I heard from Princess Mary Tudor that it was far and away the finest Pub Sing of all time. By the way, is it true that the Mediaeval Baebes sang "My Humps" at the Saturday PS but were unable to perform at Sunday's PS? Just curious.
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Re: The Rugby's Pubsing « Reply #3 on Oct 22, 2008, 3:55pm »
This review will be interesting, as it involves two quite different Pub Sings. As John quite accurately surmised, the purpose of the last Pub Sing is to make the audience cry, whereas the penultimate Pub Sig is supposed to make you laugh. John (and his woman) succeeded in both these tasks admirably.
Speaking of his woman, I am a bit curious about why she was co-hosting on Sunday. Saturday made sense with the bachelor party theme (a good touch, btw, especially with the Countess doing a Tudor hair strip - it was a bit surreal seeing a lady in nobles garb looking like the new neighbor in Desperate Housewives homing in on the pool boy like a cruise missile). Although Molly did a fine job on Sunday, I would've liked to have seen how John handled it all by himself.
Saturday's impressions:
1) After the first bit about the bachelor party, it settled down into what seemed to be a PV (plain vanilla) Pub Sing. For me, it picked up when Felonious Fingers took Darcy's Hotel California into dance music land. He went too far with it, but I suspect that was his intention. I now feel stupid for not anticipating the Big Butts song coming next, but having it come from Tom as the Hermit managed to surprise me (BTW, I've always thought Big Butts was the quintessential Pub Sing bit because it combines the Three Pillars of Pub Sing comedy - bawdy/sexual humor, anachronistic humor, and physical humor so broad that it'd embarrass the hell out of a drunk Jerry Lewis). Having The Interpreters follow with My Humps came out of left field and was the knockout punch.
2) When John started singing "I Come For To Sing" as the closing song, I thought it was academically a good choice, song-wise. Practically, I thought it was going to bomb because Tim wasn't singing it. I felt having somebody else sing that song at MDRF Pub Sing was a big mistake. Then, of course, John proved me completely wrong. Bringing the different groups into it was brilliant and saved it from comparison with Tim, and the Hooligans' verse did a wonderful job of going too far. For me, it also enforced the importance of having a good ending. I walked out feeling it was a fantastic Pub Sing, and had to work to remember the earlier bits that didn't seem too impressive at the time.
What the other great shows did by bringing in new-to-Pub-Sing acts, this show did by bringing in new-to-Pub-Sing material from established acts (including some rather outrageous lines). My first thought was whether that new and outrageous material could be sustained over the course of a season. My second thought was that any host bringing in new acts to accomplish the same thing would face the same problem.
Sunday observations:
1) At first, I thought the performance of Auld Lang Syne for absent friends at the beginning of the show was a mistake. Plenty of people in the audience knew Ron, and setting them (us) to bawling five minutes into Pub Sing didn't make much sense. Upon reflection, however, I'm glad it wasn't done at the end, which was the obvious choice. That's not how I would've wanted to feel walking out of the last day of faire.
2) Can someone else please comment on the flow of songs in Sunday's show, in terms of slow/sad and upbeat/funny? I had advance notice of the upbeat part (for logistical reasons), so I couldn't really evaluate it very well (although I did like the tie-in introduction, "And now, here's the O'Danny Girls with the sweetest song they know"). I'd like to hear others opinion on the emotional pacing. One problem I've had with Pub Sings of earlier years is that they tried to wind down too soon, and it felt like there was nearly a half hour of last songs (even when they weren't announcing them as such).
4) Although Fire in the Glen was the most well-received new song at Pub Sing this year, it'll take at least a few more performances before people start catching onto the chorus. This isn't to say that it shouldn't be performed; only that it will be a while before people start singing along a la The Boatman.
5) I've always felt that if you're going to put a solo, non-comedic musical performance into Pub Sing, it'd better be damned good ("Boatman Good" or "Bedlam Good" are the terms I often use). Newguy's "Carrickfergus" was that good. I don't even like the song and I wasn't particularly happy sitting through it, but I'd have to have the worst tin ear in Christendom not to be able to tell how good it was. Good choice of material, most everybody should've been familiar with it, and the singing was superb.
6) My personal favorite new song at Pub Sing is Nobleman's Daughter, but that's probably because it's not a new song for me. I'd strongly consider asking Felonious to start working on a whistle part to replace Justin's flute part. In the meantime, for a one-off performance at Pub Sing, Chelle might be available for a violin part.
7) The whole play on Molly/Princess Mary and Candy/Queen Catherine was just the kind of inside joke that Pub Sing critics rail against and which I find hilarious. If you go through an entire day at faire and don't notice who the King's daughter and the new Queen are, you don't deserve to get the jokes.
8) Given that Auld Lang Syne was done at the beginning, the ending pretty much wrote itself. John could've labored over trying to dream up something different, but there was no point, not for the very last Pub Sing. Well done.
Hmm, I hardly expected to have so many comments on Sunday's sing as compared to Saturday's, especially as Sunday's general format was pretty much pre-ordained (pre-ordained, at least, to anybody who understands Pub Sing).
Overall, right up there with the Kat and Emrys Pub Sing. John made a lot of good choices and came up with some great, over-the-top stuff. Great job.
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5) I've always felt that if you're going to put a solo, non-comedic musical performance into Pub Sing, it'd better be damned good ("Boatman Good" or "Bedlam Good" are the terms I often use). Newguy's "Carrickfergus" was that good. I don't even like the song and I wasn't particularly happy sitting through it, but I'd have to have the worst tin ear in Christendom not to be able to tell how good it was.
In theory I like "Carrickfergus" but I hate about 90% of the versions I hear: too slow, too funereal....most singers don't get that the song has a subtle balance -- that it is not just a lament but a self-indictment and a confession, and that there is layer of black humor under the sadness. Newguy avoided every one of those pitfalls. Flawless performance -- I give it a 10.
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For me, it picked up when Felonious Fingers took Darcy's Hotel California into dance music land. He went too far with it,
Am I the only one that realizes we got Rickrolled by Felonious???
No, Kesrick, you weren't. I turned to my friend Mark, completely dumbfounded, sputtering, "He didn't just.... he did.... that bastard! He just Rick Rolled Pub Sing!!"
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I wasn't able to attend either Pub Sing (I had to work), but I heard from Princess Mary Tudor that it was far and away the finest Pub Sing of all time. By the way, is it true that the Mediaeval Baebes sang "My Humps" at the Saturday PS but were unable to perform at Sunday's PS? Just curious.
No it was not the Mediaeval Baebes that sang My Hump. It was our very own home grown Renaissance babes, The Interpretors.
I wasn't able to attend either Pub Sing (I had to work), but I heard from Princess Mary Tudor that it was far and away the finest Pub Sing of all time.
How would she know? She wasn't even there! Imagine missing the final Pub Sing of the season! Hell, with all the singing on the final night, she probably could've performed herself! Instead we had to listen to John sing a duet with his wife.
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Master Will Paisley - Minstrel, Interrupted Yeoman-Purser of the Frigate Up Royally (now under new management!) Bard #400 (CD) Faire name - "Flo's husband" Manservant to Mistress von Cleavage, awaiting other accroutrements
I wasn't able to attend either Pub Sing (I had to work), but I heard from Princess Mary Tudor that it was far and away the finest Pub Sing of all time. By the way, is it true that the Mediaeval Baebes sang "My Hump" at the Saturday PS but were unable to perform at Sunday's PS? Just curious.
No it was not the Mediaeval Baebes that sang My Hump. It was our very own home grown Renaissance babes, The Interpreters.
Really? I was under the impression that their version of "My Hump" was in Cornish. Now I'm even more impressed with the Interpreters.
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Re: The Rugby's Pubsing « Reply #13 on Oct 25, 2008, 6:04pm »
Am I the only one that realizes we got Rickrolled by Felonious???
No, Kesrick, you weren't. I turned to my friend Mark, completely dumbfounded, sputtering, "He didn't just.... he did.... that bastard! He just Rick Rolled Pub Sing!!"
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